{"id":9955,"date":"2022-10-17T11:17:00","date_gmt":"2022-10-17T09:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.randos-montblanc.com\/?p=9955"},"modified":"2023-06-03T13:51:35","modified_gmt":"2023-06-03T11:51:35","slug":"sous-dine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.randos-montblanc.com\/en\/intermediate-hikes\/sous-dine.html","title":{"rendered":"Montagne de Sous-Dine"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recognised by its steep cliffs on its northern face, Montagne de Sous-Dine is a choice hiking route in the heart of the Bornes massif.<\/p>\n<p>The ascent, which starts in the forest, continues through the lapiaz and ends on a vast grassy plateau which, due to its ideal location, offers an extensive panorama of numerous summits. From the Alps of Savoie and Haute-Savoie, through the Jura chain and the Swiss peaks, here is the context of this very beautiful walk.<\/p>\n<p>There are no technical difficulties or tricky sections. However, youngsters will have to be careful when approaching the cliffs.<\/p>\n<p>Note the possibility of doing the route as a loop via the Monthieu Passage. However, this passage with cable is steep. Moreover, it is permanently wet and very slippery due to its patinated rocks. Consequently, I strongly advise against this passage on the descent as it can quickly become dangerous.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"cap\" ><br \/>\n<script async=\"\" src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><\/span><\/p>\n<p><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3567350517589380\" data-ad-slot=\"5784331615\" data-ad-format=\"auto\"><\/ins><br \/>\n<script><br \/>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<br \/>\n<\/script><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Difficulty<\/strong>: Intermediate <img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-710\" src=\"http:\/\/www.randos-montblanc.com\/images\/bouton\/hiking-icon-moyen.png\" alt=\"hiking-icon-moyen\"\/><\/li>\n<li><b>Altitude<\/b>: 2,004 m<\/li>\n<li><b>Ascent<\/b>: 2 hours 20 min<\/li>\n<li><b>Descent<\/b>: 1 hour 25 min<\/li>\n<li><strong>Elevation Gain<\/strong>: 930 meters<\/li>\n<li><strong>Round-trip<\/strong>: 11.5 km<\/li>\n<li><strong>Map<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wikiloc.com\/hiking-trails\/montagne-de-sous-dine-116337227\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><b>IGN 3430 ET<\/b><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h4><strong>Getting There<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p class=\"first-child\">From La Roche sur Foron, take the direction of Thorens-Gli\u00e8res (D2 road). Go to the Col des Fleuries, and turn left towards Mont-Piton (C16 road). After about 2 km, turn right onto Les Cheneviers and park in the small car park at the end of the road.<\/p>\n<p><strong>GPS Coordinates (WGS 84) of the Starting Point<\/strong>: <a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/maps\/VuZKBCzPorXe6KaQ9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">46.014080, 6.301353<\/a><\/p>\n<h4><strong>Ascent<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>From the car park, take the left-hand path marked &#8220;Sous-Dine &#8211; 3 h 00&#8221;. The track climbs through the forest and rises steeply. A few moments later, you will see the yellow arrows on a green background that you should follow along the route. When you reach a junction with the forest road, go straight on. The climb then becomes much steeper.<\/p>\n<p>After about an hour&#8217;s walk from the car park, you come to a fork in the road with several signposts: follow the signs for &#8220;Sous-Dine par Trou de la Pierre &#8211; 2 h 00&#8221;. The progression is again steep.&nbsp;A little further on, turn right as indicated by the yellow arrow. The route then leaves the wide path to take a narrower trail that weaves its way through the trees.<\/p>\n<p>You will later reach the chalet de l&#8217;Artu with its magnificent view <a href=\"https:\/\/www.randos-montblanc.com\/en\/intermediate-hikes\/parmelan.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">of the Parmelan<\/a>. From here, follow the signs for &#8220;Sous-Dine &#8211; 1 hr 40 min&#8221;, inviting you to enter the forest again.&nbsp;At the next intersection, turn right as indicated by the yellow arrow. The path then progresses on an open road with the Parmelan on the right.<\/p>\n<p>After a few hairpin bends, the path reaches the Trou de la Pierre. From here, turn left onto the well-marked path towards &#8220;Sous-Dine &#8211; 1 h 20&#8221;.&nbsp;After a climb through the undergrowth, you come to a small pass with a magnificent view of Mont Blanc. You must continue to follow the path with cairns that crosses the lapiaz to reach the summit after about thirty minutes.<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Descent<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p class=\"first-child\">Take the same route as depicted above.<br \/>\n<script async=\"\" src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display: block;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-3567350517589380\" data-ad-slot=\"5784331615\" data-ad-format=\"auto\"><\/ins><br \/>\n<script><br \/>\n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});<br \/>\n<\/script><\/p>\n<h4><strong>Photos of the Montagne Sous-Dine<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p>ngg_shortcode_0_placeholder<\/p>\n<h4><strong>Route<\/strong><\/h4>\n<p><a class=\"maxbutton-3 maxbutton maxbutton-download-the-route-kml\" target=\"_blank\"  rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.randos-montblanc.com\/kml\/sous-dine.kml\"><span class='mb-text'>Download the route (KML)<\/span><\/a> <a class=\"maxbutton-3 maxbutton maxbutton-download-the-route-kml\" target=\"_blank\"  rel=\"noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.randos-montblanc.com\/gpx\/sous-dine.gpx\"><span class='mb-text'>Download the route (GPX)<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"leaflet-map WPLeafletMap\" style=\"height:344px; 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